not think i would ever fold em on pre flop,except just mabe if i bubble , to being paid in a long n nice pay day in a tournement , then only mabe but played this game like eight years , , most you know i a mess , n i not play strategy, position, hell i not even play me cards most the time , i play me stack , i know money better thrn i know poker , so if me stack can survive the play n im comfy with it , i do it , some times i do it nekked n all in